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Loviatar · May 11, 2006, 09:26 PM // 21:26

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Originally Posted by TimberOwl

Yeah i have to admit i was somewhat under the impression that they had on;y worked on it, or them for 6 months at a time.

i also have hope as i harken back to all the changes made/bugs fixed in chapter 1.(over many months)

that is why i am not getting upset over things that are not going right at the moment.

they are taking care of the worst fast as they can and refinements will follow.

this will still be rough for a chapter or so as it is a work in progress and i simply am enjoying it.

KvanCetre · May 11, 2006, 09:29 PM // 21:29

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Originally Posted by TimberOwl

Hmm, still another $34 or $49 every six months... So, Anets "Free Online Gaming" Isn't so free afterall.

Anet told us they'd be making expansions and we'd pay for them pretty much since the idea of Guild Wars was out. It's not major news - sorry you didn't bother to do any research.

And yes, it is a free game. You don't have to buy Factions or Chapter 3 or above. You could still play Guild Wars: Prophecies for free until the server is shut down.

UndeadRoadkill · May 11, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

It is pretty lame to claim you will or won't buy the next chapter when you know nothing about it yet.

It's a good thing he didn't make that claim then, eh?

Stolen Souls · May 11, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

No hassle. Walked into the store, picked up 2 pre-order boxes off the shelf, paid for them.

Added the keys and participated in the preview weekend. Got to start the game a bit early with some max weapons.

Factions was released, took my receipt in, picked up 2 release boxes off the shelf, paid for them with $10 off each one due to the pre-order. No hassle.

It is pretty lame to claim you will or won't buy the next chapter when you know nothing about it yet.

Yeah, you're right. It wasn't a hassle for you so that means it was the same for everybody.

Don't ever remember saying I won't buy it...I said I won't PREORDER it. I said I would WAIT until I hear about it from friends and guildies BEFORE buying. I never flat out said I'm not buying them...

Sorry you couldn't understand that.

KvanCetre · May 11, 2006, 09:36 PM // 21:36

Let us not forget the typical MMO has expansion fees on top of monthly fees.

After seeing WoW's planned expansion(which is taking almost twice as long to put out as Factions), I'm pretty glad I switched to Guild Wars. We got a much larger game than they'll get... Essentially, WoW will remain the same exact game it was with two new races(Which are little more than changes in appearance), a few extra dungeons, and one new land to explore(which I'm pretty sure you have to be max-level to enter).

ump · May 11, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

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Originally Posted by DeanBB

No hassle. Walked into the store, picked up 2 pre-order boxes off the shelf, paid for them.

Added the keys and participated in the preview weekend. Got to start the game a bit early with some max weapons.

Factions was released, took my receipt in, picked up 2 release boxes off the shelf, paid for them with $10 off each one due to the pre-order. No hassle.

It is pretty lame to claim you will or won't buy the next chapter when you know nothing about it yet.

Same for me. No hassle at all other than a second trip to the store. However, I picked up the prerelease only 3-4 days before the game released. The prerelease let me play a day ahead of time and gave decent weapons that helps out a new character fairly well and didn't cost me anything for something I knew I was going to get anyways.

KvanCetre · May 11, 2006, 09:39 PM // 21:39

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Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

Yeah, you're right. It wasn't a hassle for you so that means it was the same for everybody.

What exactly was your problem with pre-order?
Personally, I prefer this pre-order to any other...

You get free stuff for nothing.

UndeadRoadkill · May 11, 2006, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by KvanCetre

What exactly was your problem with pre-order?

Player: "Gaile, this is a bad game mechanic, we won't like it if it's this way."

Gaile: "Wait until you see how it is before you complain!"

Anet: "GET COOL FREE STUFF, BUT ONLY IF YOUR PREORDER (BEFORE YOU 'SEE HOW IT IS')!!!!!!!!!!!"

-Player preorders and game is released-

Player: "Gaile, this is exactly the thing we told you we wouldn't like!"

Gaile: "Too bad, we've got your money now."

Sir_BlackJack · May 11, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04

You forgot to add for Gaile her usual comment:

zOMGwhatcutepets.yesilikethisandthatandhowwonderfu lislifeandhowcuteisthispet?

Age · May 11, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by KvanCetre

Anet told us they'd be making expansions and we'd pay for them pretty much since the idea of Guild Wars was out. It's not major news - sorry you didn't bother to do any research.

And yes, it is a free game. You don't have to buy Factions or Chapter 3 or above. You could still play Guild Wars: Prophecies for free until the server is shut down.

I don't think they will be shutting down the prophecies server any time.I would have to say if they did it would be for a more updated look like restoreing Ascalon sort of like pre.If there is one server they would shut down it would be the pre one.

allience · May 11, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

as a pvp player, i'll also buy the expansions. i'm very very disappointed with factions, but i need the damn skills. i'll probably feel the same way about the other "expansions". BUT, i will not preorder or get CE since i'm affraid i'll get scamed out like factions did.

Sir Skullcrasher · May 11, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Age

I don't think they will be shutting down the prophecies server any time.I would have to say if they did it would be for a more updated look like restoreing Ascalon sort of like pre.If there is one server they would shut down it would be the pre one.

Not shutting down the server entirely. Go to different town like War Camp, Ascalon, LA, Forge and other places. You see less districts than before. Like in War Camp, there used to be 10 outpost now it down to 5. So instead of killing the server for certain chapter, they're limiting the amount of districts it take from the server side.

UndeadRoadkill · May 11, 2006, 11:17 PM // 23:17

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Originally Posted by Age

I don't think they will be shutting down the prophecies server any time.I would have to say if they did it would be for a more updated look like restoreing Ascalon sort of like pre.If there is one server they would shut down it would be the pre one.

He means when Anet goes bankrupt, people stop playing, the world explodes, whatever. The servers will not be running for all time.

=HT=Ingram · May 11, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23

God I wish I was going ot E3 this year. I knew I should have booked a flight... oh well.....

Glitched · May 11, 2006, 11:42 PM // 23:42

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Originally Posted by UndeadRoadkill

Player: "Gaile, this is a bad game mechanic, we won't like it if it's this way."

Gaile: "Wait until you see how it is before you complain!"

Anet: "GET COOL FREE STUFF, BUT ONLY IF YOUR PREORDER (BEFORE YOU 'SEE HOW IT IS')!!!!!!!!!!!"

-Player preorders and game is released-

Player: "Gaile, this is exactly the thing we told you we wouldn't like!"

Gaile: "Too bad, we've got your money now."

Wow, dont even try to blame this on Anet. If you dont like the game mechanic, and you knew nothing about it, its your own damn fault preordering.

generik · May 11, 2006, 11:48 PM // 23:48

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Originally Posted by Glitched

Anet has said before that EVERY CHAPTER RECIEVES 12 MONTHS OF DEVELOPMENT! They are not charging us 50 bucks for a game that has been worked on for 6 months. The Anet team is divided. This is my best guess: 55% is working on chapter 3, 25% is working on chapter 4, and 20% is working on current guild wars. As chapter 3 becomes closer to release, the numbers will shift. Chapter three began development Fall 2005, and will be released Fall 2006. Chapter four began development Spring 2006, and will be released Spring 2007.

6 months.. 12 months.. so?

Other games on the shelves going for $50 (or $49.99, whatever floats your boat) are in development for an average of two to three years. 12 months for a game is still very short!

Sir Skullcrasher · May 11, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

I think Half Life 2 has like 5 to 6 years in development before we got it released later 2005?

UndeadRoadkill · May 11, 2006, 11:58 PM // 23:58

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Originally Posted by Glitched

Wow, dont even try to blame this on Anet. If you dont like the game mechanic, and you knew nothing about it, its your own damn fault preordering.

What I blame Anet for is not letting us know how the finished product would be, and instead saying something that could even be taken as a reassurance, while offering gifts that you don't get if you actually do 'wait and see how it is.'

Loviatar · May 12, 2006, 12:07 AM // 00:07

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Originally Posted by generik

6 months.. 12 months.. so?

Other games on the shelves going for $50 (or $49.99, whatever floats your boat) are in development for an average of two to three years. 12 months for a game is still very short!

that is very true.

however you are forgetting the facts that Anet does not have to spend the time creating an engine for the game as they have one they are familiar with.

Anet also doesnt have to start from scrarch in building the landscape,characters,artwork,animations,etc while Anet has a big (and growing bigger each chapter) library of items to drag and drop for the next continent.

the more chapters they make with the bigger library and greater familiarity with doing the work the more time they will have for new additional content.

so yes they can do more in one year than another company starting a new game from scratch.

Nevin · May 12, 2006, 12:14 AM // 00:14

They have been in devopement for 12 months.

When Prophecies was released factions had already been 6 months into developement, when Factions was released Chapter 3 had already been 6 months into developement.

They have more then 1 team to do work..